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		<title>Tuckahoe Main Street, or I&#8217;ve Got the PDD Blues Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night I spent an instructive couple of hours listening to the developers of the so-called &#8220;Tuckahoe Main Street&#8221; explain their proposal (basically a strip mall with some apartments, greenery and sidewalk cafes thrown in as window dressing), as well as the responses of quite a few Tuckahoe residents. The reason I found it so [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I spent an instructive couple of hours listening to the developers of the so-called &#8220;Tuckahoe Main Street&#8221; explain their proposal (basically a strip mall with some apartments, greenery and sidewalk cafes thrown in as  window dressing), as well as the responses of quite a few Tuckahoe residents. The reason I found it so instructive was that it helped clarify my thinking on the subject of Planned Development Districts or PDDs. Until now, I had  what could best be called a &#8220;feeling&#8221; that PDDs were generally not as beneficial to the community as they were intended to be. Now, I understand why I had that feeling, and that it&#8217;s right on the money.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some background for those of you who don&#8217;t follow the &#8220;planning&#8221; game as it&#8217;s played in the Town of Southampton, NY. PDDs, are usually proposed by developers who want to use a parcel, or parcels, of land in a way that does not conform to the current zoning of those parcels. Rather than ask the Town to change the zoning outright, which would be a difficult process, with little chance of success, the developer can propose that the Town create an &#8220;overlay district&#8221;  or PDD, that would not change, but rather overlay the existing zoning. A PDD applies only to the parcels in question, and, theoretically at least, does not create a precedent that might lead other land owners in the area to also demand a rezoning of their properties. In return for granting the PDD, the Town is supposed to receive some &#8220;community benefits or amenities&#8221; from the developer, perhaps some parkland, open space or the inclusion of some affordable housing on the site. Granted, this is a simplistic explanation, but I think it covers the most important ground.</p>
<p>The 12.4-acre site of the Tuckahoe project consists of 4.4 acres currently zoned for residential development, and an eight-acre parcel zoned for highway business. Neither of these zoning classifications allow for the type of mixed-use development being proposed. Consequently, the developer has asked the Town Board to consider creating a MUPDD, (Mixed-Use Planned Development District) in which such a development would be permitted.<br />
<div id="attachment_234" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.saghampton.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/TuckahoeMainStPlan.png"><img src="http://www.saghampton.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/TuckahoeMainStPlan-300x203.png" alt="Tuckahoe Main Street Plan" title="Tuckahoe Main Street Plan" width="300" height="203" class="size-medium wp-image-234" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The developer's preliminary plan for the Tuckahoe Main Street PDD</p></div></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the background. Now back to our story.</p>
<p>Not too long ago I was fortunate enough to attend a training session at the Project for Public Spaces in New York City. I owe my good fortune to the community group <em>Save Sag Harbor</em> for sponsoring my attendance there. The staff at PPS specialize in something they call placemaking, which is basically the art and science of creating livable places where people enjoy being. As Main Streets are very important places in communities, we spent a good deal of time in our training learning what makes a good Main Street work as an integral part of a thriving community.  Of course this varies from town to town, but it always starts with a sense of place. The Main Street of a town or village has to reflect the history, values and aspirations of the community it serves.</p>
<p>When confronted with an unsuccessful place, say a dying Main Street in an aging town fighting against a proliferation of strip malls and suburban sprawl, the staff at PPS always starts by asking the community to identify what it is that is important, meaningful and useful in their town. They ask, &#8220;what works? What doesn&#8217;t? What&#8217;s worth preserving? What needs to be changed? What&#8217;s missing?&#8221; Only the people who live in a place can answer these question. Planners, no matter how skilled, cannot. Armed with this information, PPS can then make suggestions as to how to supplement and modify the working parts, integrating everything into a seamless whole that then has a chance of becoming a successful &#8220;place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Given the importance of the Main Street to any community, I could not help but apply some of my training in analyzing the &#8220;Tuckahoe Main Street&#8221; PDD. Three things were immediately obvious. First, this is not a Main Street in any traditional sense of the word. Second, the entire plan was conceived by the developer&#8217;s planning team without significant community input. Third, this was not a livable place where people would enjoy spending time. How could it be when the dominant feature was a 474-space parking lot?</p>
<p>I could go on for many paragraphs criticizing particulars of the design, but there is no point. The entire plan is ill conceived and should not go forward. But, I do not blame the developers for this. They are just doing what developers do. No, I fault our Town government for creating the tool that makes the kind of thinking behind Tuckahoe Main Street possible: the PDD.</p>
<p>Read the language in the section of the Town Code dealing with PDDs, and you would think this legislation is so pure and beneficial that only good could possibly come of it. Unfortunately, that has not proved to be the case. The reason why PDDs don&#8217;t work is simple: they don&#8217;t start with the community. Rather, they are a tool used by developers to be able to build what they want by simply making a small sacrifice in terms of providing some &#8220;community benefit or amenity.&#8221; The benefit extracted by the Town is supposed to ameliorate the damage to the community caused by the creation of the PDD, but rarely turns out to be more than a bandaid slapped on a gaping wound.</p>
<p>PDD&#8217;s don&#8217;t work because they ignore the basic tenets of good placemaking. To reiterate: first, find out what the community values, needs and aspires to, then preserve what is good in the community. Next, find ways to incentivize the development of any missing and needed features. And finally tie it all together with good planning to create a unified, livable, workable community, where people will want to be. The way PDDs work now, is to start with some &#8220;concept&#8221; put together by a developer that may or may not have any relation to anything the community actually needs. Then this &#8220;concept&#8221; is massaged into something that passes as &#8220;beneficial&#8221; in some way or another, and foisted on the community, often exacerbating existing problems. This is &#8220;planning&#8221; stood on its head. It starts with the result, and then tries to twist it to fit the need.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening in Tuckahoe right now, and it&#8217;s a sham and a crime. The people of Tuckahoe deserve a say in whether their &#8220;Main Street&#8221; serves them or the needs of some developers and out-of-town merchants. This PDD should be denied. Then the entire PDD process should be revised to make it more responsive to the needs of the communities in which future PDDs are proposed.</p>
<p>What do you think? Leave a comment below telling me why I&#8217;m wrong or right, or how my ideas on this subject can be improved.</p>
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		<title>Learning on the Job</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 04:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Learning on the job is a good thing, right? So, the Sag Harbor School Board is to be commended for finally figuring out the fund-balance thing. You know, that pesky thing they have to figure out about how much padding to put in the budget to make sure they don&#8217;t run out of money in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learning on the job is a good thing, right? So, the Sag Harbor School Board is to be commended for finally figuring out the fund-balance thing. You know, that pesky thing they have to figure out about how much padding to put in the budget to make sure they don&#8217;t run out of money in case there are unexpected expenses during the year. It&#8217;s hard because the State Education Department says you have to put something aside, but it can&#8217;t be too little and it can&#8217;t be too much. Up &#8217;til last year, it seems, the Board has had trouble with the too much part. The limit used to be 2% of the total budget. Then recently it went up to 4%, but the Board just kept socking the dough away accumulating fund balances of more that 16% in at least one recent year. Then, as part of their learning process I guess, they let the pendulum swing the other way, letting the fund-balance get so low last year that they got a little slap-on-the-wrist letter from the State auditors.</p>
<p>But this year&#8230;this year they assure us they&#8217;ve got it figured out and the fund-balance, like little bear&#8217;s porridge, will be just right. As I said, learning on the job is good. I really mean that. Now, what about those accounting errors?  They are the other villain in this year&#8217;s budget scenario, yet the Board was a little less specific about those. However, the District&#8217;s new business official, Janet Verneuille, assures us she&#8217;s got a handle on it, and from the depth of knowledge she displayed at a recent budget presentation, I&#8217;m inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I&#8217;m also inclined to giver her a word to the wise&#8230;it&#8217;s not necessary to try to defend or even explain the mistakes of your predecessors. They were their mistakes, not yours. Defending them makes them look like your mistakes. Correct, don&#8217;t defend.</p>
<p>Which, by the way, is advice the School Board should take to heart as well. In the current political climate &#8212; yes, the School Board is political &#8212; you can&#8217;t win an argument with the public. The public is angry, and that anger is not aimed at anyone in specific. Are you an elected official? If the answer is yes, just assume that the public is pissed-off at you. The best thing you can do is to publicly accept your role in whatever mistakes were made, apologize sincerely, and then be completely transparent about what you are doing to fix the problem. Don&#8217;t defend, don&#8217;t argue, and especially don&#8217;t get arrogant.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, when there&#8217;s a lack of leadership, defensiveness, argumentativeness and arrogance often appear to fill the void. Former Board President Walter Tice got it exactly right at Monday evening&#8217;s Board meeting when he admonished the board for expecting the public to, again, vote on a budget in which the dollar amount of the single largest expense &#8212; teacher&#8217;s salaries &#8212; is a guess that can&#8217;t even be revealed to the voters.  Tice advised the board to get the contract settled before the budget vote so that the public could have confidence that the proposed budget accurately reflected the amount the District would need to meet its obligations &#8212; not too little, and certainly not too much. That being a concept the board and administration have had difficulty with in recent years, they should carefully consider the wisdom of Mr. Tice&#8217;s advice.</p>
<p>The good news is that leadership can be learned on the job. All that&#8217;s needed to get the contract negotiation ball rolling again, is for one or more Board members to accept the fact that it is the Board&#8217;s job to get it done and to stop making it personal. As things stand right now, the animosity directed by some board members towards the teachers&#8217; union is palpable, and that&#8217;s not appropriate. This is not an ego battle. Board members must put aside their personal feelings and their preconceived notions of whatever it was they thought they could &#8220;accomplish&#8221; in the negotiations, and actually start to negotiate.  A leader would recognize that &#8220;winning&#8221; is no longer the most important point. (It actually never was.) Preserving the vision, the quality, and the harmony of the District is what&#8217;s important now. A leader would know this, and would do whatever is necessary to make his or her colleagues understand it as well. I know that leader exists on this board. I just hope that he or she is ready to start learning on the job.</p>
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		<title>Transportation Forum Stays On Track</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saltbox</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m not often surprised by politicians. Well, let me rephrase that, I&#8217;m often surprised by politicians&#8217; venality, but much less often by their willingness to take a risk. So, I have to admit that I was taken completely by surprise when, at the Transportation Forum sponsored by New York State Assemblyman Fred Thiele, there was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not often surprised by politicians. Well, let me rephrase that, I&#8217;m often surprised by politicians&#8217; venality, but much less often by their willingness to take a risk. So, I have to admit that I was taken completely by surprise when, at the Transportation Forum sponsored by New York State Assemblyman Fred Thiele, there was near unanimity among the politicians present that the East End Transportation Council should continue developing plans to build the expensive and unproven East End Shuttle rail/bus network. This consensus came after listening to a very detailed analysis of the pros and cons of this plan, and those of an alternative plan for a flexible bus network developed by the Volpe Transportation Center, an arm of the U.S. Department of Transportation, that seemed to favor the bus network.</p>
<p>Present at this event were quite a few of the East End&#8217;s local and regional elected officials including the supervisors of the Towns of Southampton, East Hampton, Southold and Riverhead, County Legislators Schneiderman and Romaine, Assemblyman Thiele, every member of the Southampton Town Council, members of various other town councils, and representatives from the offices of Congressman Bishop and State Senator Lavalle. The only significant player not present was the Shelter Island supervisor. Among those commenting on the transportation plans presented at the forum, only the representatives for Congresman Bishop and Senator Lavalle did not take a position, saying they would have to defer to their bosses; County Legislator Romaine left early, before his opinion could be recorded. Riverhead&#8217;s Supervisor Cardinale arrived late, and having missed the presentation said that while he could not take a strong position either way, he would, at this time, defer to the opinions of the other supervisors. Only Legislator Schneiderman voiced a dissenting opinion. Everyone else present expressed support for the development of the rail/bus network plan.</p>
<p>Quite frankly, I was dumbfounded. After listening to the presentation, I was sure that the local officials would use the cover provided by the Volpe Center&#8217;s more reasonably priced alternative to avoid supporting what looks to be a very difficult to implement and costly project, the outcome of which is far from certain.  But, calling the more elaborate plan &#8220;visionary,&#8221; and &#8220;of greater long-term benefit,&#8221; the politicians quickly came to consensus. How often does that happen? I&#8217;m still shocked. It certainly tore a hole in my post of a couple of weeks ago in which I asserted that the provincialism that crops up in inter-town disputes was one of the biggest problems facing the East End. Needless to say, I was thrilled at this level of cooperation. I also support the plan.</p>
<p>At this point some of you are probably wishing for a little background. OK, here it is. Planners have been predicting total gridlock on East End roads since at least the 1970s, and starting around then have also proposed many ways to avoid it, most of which have proven unacceptable to residents and or government officials for one reason or another. In the mid 1990s, the East End Supervisors and Mayors Association (EESMA), created a new group, the East End Transportation Council (EETC) to again study the issue, which they did&#8230;interminably. Their work eventually culminated in the 2006 release of a study known as SEEDS (Sustainable East End Development Strategies). I won&#8217;t go into that here, except to say that development of a mass transit system of some kind was one of the recommendations of the study. During the SEEDS process, a splinter group formed among the SEEDS stakeholders. The members of this splinter felt that EETC was moving too slowly, and that it was time to jump from studying the problem to developing solutions. This group became Five Towns Rural Transit (FTRT), a non-profit devoted to the development of what was to become known as the East End Shuttle.</p>
<p>Through the dedication and hard work of FTRT, a plan was developed that included replacement of the Long Island Rail Road service on the East End with a more frequent light rail service that would shuttle between the stations and be met by a network of feeder buses to which passengers could transfer for short rides into nearby hamlets, villages and business centers. In 2007, Assemblyman Thiele and Senator Lavalle took up the cause of FTRT and were able to obtain a matching grant  for the study and further development of the East End Shuttle concept. The East End Towns came up with the matching funds, and the EETC was given the task of finding a group capable of undertaking the study. This turned out to be the Volpe Center, which was charged with fleshing out and analyzing the feasibility of the Shuttle plan, and also with coming up with at least one alternative, so that if the plan proved unacceptable, the Towns would have a fallback strategy.</p>
<p>The result of this work was presented on Friday, April 17th at Suffolk Community College in Riverhead. I won&#8217;t try to recap the presentation here, as I&#8217;ve probably already worn out your patience with this long-winded post. However, in summary, I think it would be fair to say that while Volpe was favorably impressed with FTRT&#8217;s shuttle plan, they concluded that it could be prohibitively expensive, and that the results &#8212; whether or not people would use it, and whether or not it would relieve congestion on our roadways &#8212; were uncertain. The alternative they proposed, was, in their words, more flexible, less expensive, and implementable in phases &#8212; all advantages over the shuttle plan. The big disadvantage of the alternative was that the buses would run on the same clogged roadways that we all use now, resulting in long travel times, while contributing to congestion on the roads.</p>
<p>After the presentation, many panelists and audience members spoke eloquently in favor of the shuttle plan, in spite of its possible drawbacks. Legislator Schneiderman spoke thoughtfully and presented some additional drawbacks to the shuttle plan that had not been mentioned by Volpe. Supervisor Russell of Southold, suggested that a hybrid solution, with different approaches for the north and south forks might be the best alternative &#8212; more rail on the south fork, more buses on the north. Ultimately, the idea of a hybrid solution &#8212; details unspecified &#8212; took hold of the group, and when it came time to arrive at a consensus, a hybrid solution embodying most of the details of FTRT&#8217;s East End Shuttle, at least on the south fork, was agreed upon.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve skipped over a lot of important details in this post &#8212; financing for one &#8212; which I hope to get back to another time. For now, though, I think it is enough to say that occassionally, the people we elect do their jobs with thoughtfulness and diligence, putting the greater need ahead of short term political considerations, and we should all be grateful for that, and that the *!~@$*** congestion on our roads may eventually be remedied.</p>
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		<title>The Five Top Problems Facing Sag Hampton</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over Development / Inappropriate Development Simply put, over development is the poison that will kill the golden goose. As we all know, people love this area because of its natural beauty, open vistas, fresh air, and rural feel. It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to figure out that suburban sprawl, McMansion ghettos, charmless villages filled with [...]]]></description>
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<li><span style="font-weight: bold;">Over Development / Inappropriate Development</span><br />
Simply put, over development is the poison that will kill the golden goose. As we all know, people love this area because of its natural beauty, open vistas, fresh air, and rural feel. It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to figure out that suburban sprawl, McMansion ghettos, charmless villages filled with chain boutiques and real estate offices, condos lining the waterfront, mega-yachts clogging the harbors and bumper to bumper traffic are the antithesis of the characteristics that made this place desirable. Yet, all that and more just keeps on coming. So, as we approach full build out &#8212; a scenario that&#8217;s not nearly as far away as you might think &#8212; it is ever more imperative that we speed up our progress towards that &#8220;goal&#8221; (full build-out) by dramatically reducing the amount of land available for development through upzoning and open space preservation.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Automobile</span><br />
If you live in the remote reaches of Northwest, or somewhere towards the middle of Deerfield Road in Water Mill, you better have a car so you can get to work, shopping, or the doctor&#8217;s office, because there just isn&#8217;t any other way to get there. Looked at the other way around, the fact that we almost all  have cars, has made it possible for us to build houses in these remote areas. Without cars, most of us wouldn&#8217;t put up with the inconvenience of living so far from the hamlets and villages where essential services are located. This, in a nutshell, is the cause and effect of the suburban sprawl that is rapidly destroying the beautiful vistas, unspoiled woodlands, pristine coastline and rural feeling of this area. Getting people out of their cars is a worthy goal on many levels, but one that seems almost impossible to achieve. One technique that has some hope of working, is smart growth: pushing development in close to the hamlets and villages through intensive upzoning of areas further away from the hamlet centers, and incenting developers to build and re-purpose properties closer in. This has the effect of increasing density to the point that some forms of public transportation make sense, thus getting people out of their cars, at least some of the time.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Cost of Living</span><br />
A community consisting entirely of wealthy second-home owners is not a sustainable community. As the cost of homes (and everything else) rises, working people are driven out of the community, as are the businesses they need to sustain them, and which are in turn, sustained by them. Eventually, the community itself is gone, replaced by a make-believe version that only exists for a few months of the year, and has no ability to provide the underpinnings of a real community such as a volunteer fire department and ambulance service, police department, and local government. Wealthy part-time residents don&#8217;t volunteer to serve in the fire department, or run for local office. Police can be brought in from somewhere else, but will not be as effective as a force made up, at least partially, of local residents. When local family businesses close, because their customers have been driven out of the area, what will replace them? Who will we turn to for groceries, hardware, and other household necessities? Ralph Lauren? Starbucks?  Corcoran?</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: bold;">Provincialism/Nimbyism</span><br />
Either we all bail together, or we all sink together. Don&#8217;t want that windmill in your neighbor&#8217;s yard, or that wind farm off your coastline? Well then, tell us where we can locate them, or sit back and watch your house disappear under the rising ocean. Don&#8217;t want that bicycle path running next to your estate, or cutting across your greenbelt? Well then, you&#8217;ll just have to put up with more automobile traffic and the massive amounts of pollution it generates. Don&#8217;t want affordable housing in your community? Then say good-bye to your community (see #3 above). This problem isn&#8217;t unique to individuals either; it also applies to local governments. One example of this type of provincialism with which I am familiar is in the area of transportation. In order to solve the area&#8217;s transportation problems, it is necessary for all five east end towns to work together. Local government officials understand this, and yet only pay lip service to the concept. One town doesn&#8217;t want ferries. Another doesn&#8217;t want buses. Another wants to sue the one that doesn&#8217;t want ferries. Villages block improvements to roads because the businesspeople in those villages are afraid their bottom lines may be hurt if a few parking spaces are lost. The net result is that we&#8217;re all so busy protecting our backyards that we don&#8217;t notice that the house is burning down.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: bold;">Loss of Place</span><br />
A sense of place is not something you can fake. I&#8217;m a big fan of historic preservation, but when I see the facades of historic buildings acting as camouflage for obscenely swollen McMansions tucked away behind the original modest structures, I am keenly aware that something important has been lost. When local agriculture, once a mainstay of the East End&#8217;s economy has come to mean horse farms for polo ponies and jumpers, a way of life that defined this area has slipped through our fingers, along with the definition it provided. When what was traditionally an artist&#8217;s community has more art galleries than working artists, it&#8217;s an indicator that the community&#8217;s balance has shifted away from individualism and towards commercialism. When the vast majority of the people who work here come from someplace else, a large hole has been torn in the fabric of the community that robs it of its sense of place. An authentic sense of place is what makes a community vibrant. For generations, people have come here because eastern Long Island was a &#8220;real&#8221; place. Once that&#8217;s gone &#8212; and we&#8217;re pretty darn close to losing it &#8212; well, once that&#8217;s gone, what&#8217;s left is Disneyland.</li>
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		<title>Why Isn&#8217;t the Village of Sag Harbor Supporting the Sag Harbor Gateway Study?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would seem, at first glance, to be a no-brainer. The Southampton Planning Department recently completed a study that recommends changing the zoning of a small area along the Sag Harbor-Bridgehampton Turnpike (the "Gateway" to Sag Harbor) from Highway Business to Hamlet Office. Since this area lies outside the Village's borders, its zoning is under the control of the Town. ...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem, at first glance, to be a no-brainer. The Southampton Planning Department recently completed a study that recommends changing the zoning of a small area along the Sag Harbor-Bridgehampton Turnpike (the &#8220;Gateway&#8221; to Sag Harbor) from Highway Business to Hamlet Office. Since this area lies outside the Village&#8217;s borders, its zoning is under the control of the Town. It was the Town-appointed Sag Harbor Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC) that initially suggested that a study be conducted; however, it was only after the study received the active support of the Village&#8217;s Mayor that the Town agreed to go ahead with it. Given that the study had the support of the Mayor, the CAC, CONPOSH, The Friends of the Long Pond Greenbelt, and other organizations, it would seem, as I said, a no-brainer that the Village would now endorse its findings, and encourage the adoption of the recommended change in zoning. Yet, the Village Trustees recently passed on an opportunity to make such a recommendation to the Southampton Town Board. Why?</p>
<p>A little background may be in order. Highway Business is one of, if not the most, permissive of zoning categories. Virtually anything is allowed, car dealerships, lumber yards, car washes, warehouses, and more &#8212; basically the same mix of businesses that you currently find along County Road 39 in Southampton. It&#8217;s not pretty. The Hamlet Office category is quite a bit more restrictive, allowing a much smaller mix of low-traffic types of businesses, such as, well, offices. Private residences are also allowed. In fact, the character of an area zoned as Hamlet Office is, by design, primarily residential. Hamlet Office-zoned locales are meant to serve as transitional zones between the surrounding residential areas and the commercial hamlet centers. On the other hand, the character of an area zoned Highway Business is unapologetically strip mall. So, under current zoning, the area along the Bridgehampton-Sag Harbor Turnpike just outside the Village could end up populated with high-traffic, high-intensity businesses of the most unattractive variety. Again, think County Road 39.</p>
<p>As previously stated, in the study the Southampton Planning Department recommended that given the nature of the area, changing views of the community as to the types of development found acceptable in residential areas, as well as environmental concerns related to the proximity of Long Pond Greenbelt, Ligonee Creek and related wetlands, the zoning be changed, and that the preferred alternative should be Hamlet Office. </p>
<p>Now, you may have noticed that there are already a few businesses along this part of the Turnpike. What would happen to them if the zoning were to change? Nothing. They would be, of right, grand-fathered as pre-existing non-conforming businesses, and would be allowed to continue as such basically forever.</p>
<p>Yet, at least one of these business owners is not happy with the proposed change. Robert Reid, of Reid Brothers Inc., has voiced his opposition to the change, stating that it will limit his ability to further develop his property in some, as yet unspecified, way. He is, of course, correct in that if he should desire, say to develop his property in a way that would substantively change the nature of the business conducted there, it would not be allowed. Not long ago, Mr. Reid did propose such a change, but withdrew his plan when it was determined that the potential environmental impact was of a significant enough nature to require a full environmental impact study (EIS).</p>
<p>With that background in mind, let&#8217;s look again at the Village Trustees&#8217; lack of support for Southampton&#8217;s Draft Gateway Study, which was undertaken at the Mayor&#8217;s request to protect the visual and enviromental integrity of one of the main entrances to&nbsp; Sag Harbor Village. The only opposition to the study&#8217;s recommendations has come from two of the businesses in the study area (which, you will recall is outside the of the Village&#8217;s borders). Should that matter to the Village Trustees? Well, maybe&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe it would if one of the business owners had offered his property as a staging area for the trucks and work crews at the recently approved Bulova Watchase condominium project. It would especially matter if that property owner was the developer&#8217;s <i>only</i> remaining option for a staging area, after having been refused access to other areas they had proposed for this purpose. Still, the business owner will be paid by the Bulova developers for the use of his property, so why should the Village be concerned about voicing approval for the Gateway Study even if the property owner in question, Mr. Reid, doesn&#8217;t care for it? I suspect the answer has something to do with the EIS that Reid never undertook for a project that looked quite similar to the use his property will be put to by the Bulova contractors. Reid&#8217;s previous proposal called for a &#8220;contractor&#8217;s&#8221; garage and storage area, that would allow contractors from out of the area to store their trucks, equipment and supplies at a local &#8220;depot,&#8221; which could then be used as a staging area for their work crews each morning as they arrived here from the companies&#8217; home offices further west. That propsed use was deemed possibly too intensive for the location, and so an EIS was required before the project could continue. This time around, no study is required since no construction is involved, even though the propsed use is very similar to Reid&#8217;s original plan.</p>
<p>However, this use of the property, which is unrelated to the Reid&#8217;s current business there, flies in the face of the conclusions of the Gateway Study, which, if adopted, would prohibit such a change in use for a pre-existing, non-conforming business. It also, creates the potential for the type of serious environmental impact that led the Town&#8217;s Planning Board to previously require the EIS. </p>
<p>Still, you may ask, why should the Village Trustees let this interfere with their endorsement of a change that would be of great benefit to the Village while costing them nothing? Well you may ask, and I hope you do. One factor which may be relevant is that prior to the Bulova project&#8217;s approval, much pressure was exerted on the Village government by the business community and others on behalf of the Bulova devleopers. At times, these folks made it seem that the entire future of the Village depended on the Bulova project being approved. As we all know, the project <i>was</i> ultimately approved, but perhaps that feeling of desparation persists. If so, it could be clouding the vision of our elected representatives to the point where they feel they must protect the interests of the developers, whatever the cost in other areas. Maybe, maybe not. It&#8217;s a question worth asking, though.</p>
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		<title>Saving Sag Harbor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There's a new and very active group in our community calling itself Save Sag Harbor. Its primary mission is to preserve Main Street's traditional look and business mix -- mostly small locally-owned stores and restaurants -- by preventing national chains and big box stores like CVS from moving in and driving up commercial rents to the point where they are ...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a new and very active group in our community calling itself Save Sag Harbor. Its primary mission is to preserve Main Street&#8217;s traditional look and business mix &#8212; mostly small locally-owned stores and restaurants &#8212; by preventing national chains and big box stores like CVS from moving in and driving up commercial rents to the point where they are the only businesses that can afford to have a presence here. For an example of what that looks like, visit East Hampton. As regular readers of this blog can probably guess, I&#8217;m very sympathetic to this cause. But, the name of the group strikes me as problematic.</p>
<p>The problem I see can best be stated as a question. Would Sag Harbor actually be &#8220;saved&#8221; if chain stores were outlawed here? And, that question leads me to another: what would a saved Sag Harbor be like? Let&#8217;s start with the easy stuff. Clearly, there would not be a CVS here. With CVS out of the picture, Sing City, the liquor store and 7 Eleven would be able to stay. Did I say 7 Eleven? That&#8217;s odd. 7 Eleven is definitely a chain, and a few short years ago nobody wanted them here either. I thought I was starting with the easy stuff, but I&#8217;m already running into difficulty. Fortunately for Sag Harbor, 7 Eleven&#8217;s original franchisee, the Young family, was determined to prove that 7 Eleven could be a good, if not perfect, neighbor. They obviously succeeded, since no one talks about keeping out 7 Eleven anymore. Quite the opposite. We want them to stay. Times change, as does our perception of a &#8220;saved&#8221; Sag Harbor.</p>
<p>I know it sounds like I&#8217;m revving up to defend CVS, Starbucks and their ilk. Trust me, I&#8217;m not. I just want to point out that one has to think carefully about the issues facing our little village. Nothing is ever quite as straightforward as it seems. Another example of this is historic preservation. Everyone&#8217;s for that. Right? A saved Sag Harbor would certainly retain its place in the National Register of Historic Places. Well, yes, but I have a couple of quibbles with Sag Harbor&#8217;s Architectural Review Board. It seems they are, to put it mildly, resistant to alternative power generation devices, such as solar panels and wind turbines. I find this attitude quaint, which I guess is appropriate for people whose mission is to preserve the past. However, I pose this question to the ARB: how quaint will Sag Harbor be when the entire historic district is under water? It&#8217;s pretty clear that the world&#8217;s best hope for preventing the polar ice caps from melting is for many people to take many small steps to conserve energy and reduce carbon emissions. Unfortunately for the historic purity of our village, that includes people who live in historic homes. Which is worse, solar panels or homes under water? In my version of a saved Sag Harbor, there are solar panels on many roofs.</p>
<p>Now for my other quibble with the ARB. In spite of the fact that I&#8217;m in favor of allowing solar panels and/or modest wind turbines to appear on the roofs of historic homes in our village, I really am strongly in favor of historic preservation; so much so, in fact, that I question whether the ARB and the other agencies that regulate the look of our Village are too. As I walk down our lovely streets, I find my sensibilities assaulted by what appear to be charming historic homes with huge inflated cancers growing on them. What the heck is up with 168 Main Street? Is Ira Rennert moving to Sag Harbor? What about the house across the Street from 168 Main where a small cottage was expanded to three or four times its original size, all of which expansion is clearly visible from the street?&nbsp; How can one say the historic look of that house has been preserved? Clearly the codes governing the expansion of historic homes are not adequate in the face of today&#8217;s &#8220;bigger is better&#8221; home owners. In my version of a saved Sag Harbor, this trend will not only be stopped, but reversed.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the questions only get harder. What to do about traffic? Sag Harbor is a delightfully walkable community; or it would be if there were fewer cars on the roads. Have you ever tried to cross at the intersection of Jermain and Madison on foot? Clearly, until we get people out of their cars, Sag Harbor will continue to suffer from ever increasing traffic woes. An integrated network of light rail, buses, and&#8230;gasp!&#8230;passenger ferries would go a long way toward enabling people to come to Sag Harbor while leaving their cars at home. Can we truly say that Sag Harbor is saved if we don&#8217;t address the traffic problems?</p>
<p>Another tough one: affordable housing. I&#8217;ve always believed that what sets Sag Harbor apart from the surrounding communities, and made it the best place to live in the Hamptons is its heterogeneous mix of social, economic and ethnic populations. Not only was there a healthy mix of different types and classes of people, but also, these groups were not divided. Everyone lived side by side in the same neighborhoods. As in a classroom where students of differing abilities are mixed together, everyone benefits. In a village, it&#8217;s the year-round, working families that provide the necessary infrastructure, and a good deal of the character of the place. They, in turn benefit from the culture and economic opportunity provided by the second-home owners. Cultures mix and something new and better emerges. Homogeneity &#8212; in this case represented by a community of only the wealthy &#8212; results in inbreeding and an ultimately sterile environment, lacking in all the charm that attracted people here in the first place. Unfortunately, the &#8220;free&#8221; market in real estate has killed any hope of retaining the mixed economic neighborhoods of Sag Harbor past. Artificial life-support in the form of mandated affordable housing units is the only hope of preserving some remnant of this tradition. To really save it though, the affordable units must be integrated into all new housing developments, not segregated in affordable-only sub-divisions. In a saved Sag Harbor, there are affordable units in the Bulova condo renovation too.</p>
<p>Speaking of condos, I would say that without a doubt the monstrous and obtrusive condo development proposed by Michael Maiden for Ferry Road near Long Wharf has no place in a saved Sag Harbor. This property clearly must be acquired and preserved by local government for use as a public space. If allowed to go through, the impact of those condos on the character and livability of Sag Harbor&#8217;s downtown will be overwhelming, maybe even a tipping point beyond which &#8220;Saving Sag Harbor&#8221; becomes an empty rallying cry.</p>
<p>There are, of course, other issues that need to be addressed before Sag Harbor can be considered saved: bike lanes and sidewalks, the library, open space preservation (yes, even in Sag Harbor) and more &#8212; too many to address in one sitting at the keyboard. None of this is simple; all of it is interrelated. Saving Sag Harbor requires action on many fronts by an informed and concerned populous. It is not now, and never will be a one-issue campaign.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />Currently listening to: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FPieces-You-Jewel%2Fdp%2FB000002J2S%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dmusic%26qid%3D1188319593%26sr%3D8-1&amp;tag=sagham-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325" target="_blank">Who Will Save Your Soul?</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=sagham-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" alt="" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" border="0" height="1" width="1"> by Jewel</p>
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		<title>So Where Were We?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've been on vacation, but now I'm back. So where were we?
Oh, yes...the Town of Southampton has approved a study, to be conducted by its planning department, of the gateway to Sag Harbor along the Bridgehampton-Sag Harbor Turnpike. This has been a little slow getting off the ground, but in the interim, local hero Priscilla Ciccariello has spearheaded an effort by a group she calls "the coalition" to prepare a comprehensive document detailing the reasons the study needs to be done, what specifically needs to be studied, the areas of concern for the surrounding community, the hoped-for outcomes of the study, and the reasoning behind those hopes. It's an amazing document
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on vacation, but now I&#8217;m back. So where were we? </p>
<p>Oh, yes&#8230;the Town of Southampton has approved a study, to be conducted by its planning department, of the gateway to Sag Harbor along the Bridgehampton-Sag Harbor Turnpike. This has been a little slow getting off the ground, but in the interim, local hero Priscilla Ciccariello has spearheaded an effort by a group she calls &#8220;the coalition&#8221; to prepare a comprehensive document detailing the reasons the study needs to be done, what specifically needs to be studied, the areas of concern for the surrounding community, the hoped-for outcomes of the study, and the reasoning behind those hopes. It&#8217;s an amazing document &#8212; a testament to the wisdom that exists outside of official channels. It represents countless hours of work by volunteers whose only interest is the welfare of their community.</p>
<p>Priscilla has presented her  pre-study study to the Town Board, the Town Planning Department, and the Village Board of Trustees among others. If ever there was validation for the concept of government officials seeking and heeding community input, this document is it. Lets hope our government officials have the good sense to build upon the foundation that has been provided for them.</p>
<p>Everyone in Sag Hampton owes a debt of gratitude to Priscilla Cicariello and everyone else who worked on this document.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />Currently listening to: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMigrations-Duhks%2Fdp%2FB000GY73IM%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dmusic%26qid%3D1184366434%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=sagham-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325" target="_blank">Migrations</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=sagham-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" alt="" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" border="0" height="1" width="1"> by The Duhks</p>
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		<title>Is This the Land of No?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometime it feels like we're living in the Land of No. There are quite a few things in recent memory to which one or another Sag Hampton group has said (or tried to say) NO!<br /><br />Many folks said no to the NYS Department of Transportation a few years ago when they proposed a roundabout at the wharf end of Main ...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometime it feels like we&#8217;re living in the Land of No. There are quite a few things in recent memory to which one or another Sag Hampton group has said (or tried to say) NO!</p>
<p>Many folks said no to the NYS Department of Transportation a few years ago when they proposed a roundabout at the wharf end of Main Street.</p>
<p>CONPOSH (Coalition of Neighborhoods for the Preservation Of Sag Harbor) and others said no to the expansion of 127 Main Street by its former owner, Jon Gruen.</p>
<p>The John Jermain Future Fund said no to the idea of a new library building near Mashashimuet Park.</p>
<p>The Sag Harbor CAC (Citizens Advisory Committee) &#8212; of which I am co-chair &#8212; tried to say no to the new Bayburger Restaurant opening soon on the Bridgehampton-Sag Harbor Turnpike.</p>
<p>More successfully, the CAC said no to the Reid brothers&#8217; plans to expand their service station to include a full-service car wash, and large parking facility for the use of contractors working locally.</p>
<p>Many in the community, including columnist Tony Brandt and newspaper editor Rick Murphy, would very much like to say no the the Sag Harbor School District&#8217;s&nbsp; budget.</p>
<p>The Water Mill CAC, and the Village of Southampton are attempting to say no to LIPA&#8217;s effort to run new power lines on immense 60&#8242; metal poles through the Village and parts of Water Mill and Bridgehampton.</p>
<p>Neighbors tried to say no to Wolffer Vineyard&#8217;s effort to erect new workforce housing on Narrow Lane in Bridgehampton, adjacent to the vineyard.</p>
<p>Almost everyone on Long Island, except the mayor of Greenport, wants to say a loud no to Broadwater&#8217;s floating Liquid Natural Gas terminal proposed for Long Island Sound.</p>
<p>Many, many people, including County Executive Steve Levy as well as the Southampton Town Board, and East Hampton Village&#8217;s powers-that-be are vociferously saying no to any kind of hiring hall or worklink center for day laborers wherever they gather looking for work.</p>
<p>Some folks in Sag Harbor want to say no to the new condominiums proposed for the area at the foot of the North Haven Bridge where the Sag Harbor Professional Building now stands.</p>
<p>Back to Narrow Lane where (the same?) residents said no to a bike lane along their street.</p>
<p>Sag Harbor citizenry said a most definite no to the purchase of two properties adjacent to the High School by the school district.</p>
<p>Barnes and Noble in Bridgehampton? No.</p>
<p>Affordable housing Remsenberg/Speonk? No.</p>
<p>Anti-war protesters in Southampton&#8217;s Independence Day Parade? No. (Well maybe, now that the courts have spoken.)</p>
<p>How about expanding Sunrise Highway all the way to the Bridgehampton-Sag Harbor Turnpike so that then-Governor Hugh Carey could get to his summer home on Shelter Island more easily? No. (Alright, that was a <i>really</i> dumb idea.)</p>
<p>A nuclear reactor in Shoreham? No way. (Yeah, that one was pretty dumb too.)</p>
<p>I could go on. I seem to have an almost photographic memory for ideas and projects that were shot down by community activists and/or local government. Frankly, I was one of the community activists expressing my disapproval in many (but not all) of the aforementioned instances. While I don&#8217;t regret my involvement in those issues, the cumulative weight of all those &#8220;nos&#8221; has got me thinking that I&#8217;m really <i>tired</i> of saying no. I&#8217;ve reached the point where I just want to say YES to something. Yes, Yes and Yes. And I&#8217;m going to start right now.</p>
<p>I say yes to Mike and Pat Trunzo&#8217;s proposal to create a mixed-use affordable housing/office development on their property on the Turnpike.</p>
<p>Yes to Five Towns Rural Transits&#8217; efforts to create a light-rail and bus network here on the East End.</p>
<p>Yes to a new and/or expanded Library, wherever it may be located.</p>
<p>Yes to the Sag Harbor Village zoning code overhaul, and the Mayor&#8217;s and Trustees&#8217; efforts to create more opportunities for affordable housing in the village&#8230;and yes to accessory apartments.</p>
<p>Yes to cops and cones on County Road 39, whatever the hell it costs.</p>
<p>Yes to more bike lanes, sidewalks and safer routes for kids walking and biking to school.</p>
<p>And finally, yes to acknowledging our common humanity and kinship to each other; to treating all people with dignity and respect; and so, yes to providing safe places where people who want to do needed work can find the work they need to do to support themselves and their families.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Currently listening to:</span>&nbsp;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2F69-Love-Songs-Magnetic-Fields%2Fdp%2Fsamples%2FB00000JY1X%3Fie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1179200190%26sr%3D1-1%23disc%5F3&amp;tag=sagham-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325" target="_blank">Long-Forgotten Fairytale</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=sagham-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" alt="" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" border="0" height="1" width="1"> by The Magnetic Fields</p>
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		<title>That Didn&#8217;t Take Long</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No sooner had I posted the story about the proposed ski-resort in Riverhead, than the whole thing started to unravel.&#160; Anthony of the <a href="http://ozoneusa.com/">Ozone</a> blog drew my attention to this <a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzstew0211,0,3776717.story?coll=ny-business-leadheadlines.">Newsday</a> article, (thanks Anthony) in which the paper quotes Riverhead Town Supervisor Phil Cardinale as saying, "I would expect him to be chairman, because that's how he signs his letters," ...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No sooner had I posted the story about the proposed ski-resort in Riverhead, than the whole thing started to unravel.&nbsp; Anthony of the <a href="http://ozoneusa.com/">Ozone</A> blog drew my attention to this <A style="FONT-STYLE: italic" href="http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzstew0211,0,3776717.story?coll=ny-business-leadheadlines.">Newsday</A> article, (thanks Anthony) in which the paper quotes Riverhead Town Supervisor Phil Cardinale as saying, &#8220;I would expect him to be chairman, because that&#8217;s how he signs his letters,&#8221; on finding out that Tom Stewart, the entrepreneur behind the scheme, is no longer the chairman of Stewart International Marketing, as he had been representing himself to Riverhead officials. Apparently, that&#8217;s only the tip of the iceberg&#8230;Stewart has in fact been pushing this same scheme in various communities all over the world, without actually ever having built anything. Now, if Riverhead needs a nice bridge&#8230;<BR>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<BR>Currently listening to: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBegin-Hope-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB000FFJ80I%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1171341261%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dmusic&amp;tag=sagham-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325">On The Radio</A><IMG style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none" height=1 alt="" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=sagham-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" width=1 border=0> by Regina Spektor</p>
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		<title>Unbelievable</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[File this under "Development/Crazy." My jaw is on the floor. Could this be for real? The blog <a href="http://ozoneusa.com/index.php/2007/02/07/500-foot-tall-ski-resort-proposed-in-riverhead-li/"  target="_blank">Ozone</a> quotes from the <span style="font-style: italic;">Long Island Traveler-Watchman </span>(part of the <a href="http://www.indyeastend.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-style: italic;">Independent </span></a>chain of newspapers) that a 500 ft. tall ski resort is planned for Riverhead, and that Riverhead's supervisor Phil Cardinale is already salivating over the prospect. The <span style="font-style: italic;">Traveler-Watchman</span> quotes Cardinale as saying, ...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>File this under &#8220;Development/Crazy.&#8221; My jaw is on the floor. Could this be for real? The blog <a href="http://ozoneusa.com/index.php/2007/02/07/500-foot-tall-ski-resort-proposed-in-riverhead-li/" target="_blank">Ozone</a> quotes from the <span style="font-style: italic;">Long Island Traveler-Watchman </span>(part of the <a href="http://www.indyeastend.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-style: italic;">Independent </span></a>chain of newspapers) that a 500 ft. tall ski resort is planned for Riverhead, and that Riverhead&#8217;s supervisor Phil Cardinale is already salivating over the prospect. The <span style="font-style: italic;">Traveler-Watchman</span> quotes Cardinale as saying, &#8220;I&#8217;m pleased we&#8217;ve inspired this much interest. I&#8217;ll be more excited after I&#8217;ve heard all the details,&#8221; among other generally positive comments about the proposed 755-acre resort. Is there something wrong with this picture, or is it me? Shouldn&#8217;t we expect a little skepticism or at least neutrality from our elected officials in the face of a proposal that is likely have dramatic and possibly adverse consequences for the East End? Granted, Riverhead is a very pro-business town, and maybe appropriately so, but there have to be limits. Read the story on <a href="http://ozoneusa.com/index.php/2007/02/07/500-foot-tall-ski-resort-proposed-in-riverhead-li/" target="_blank">Ozone</a> (click on the word &#8220;reports&#8221; in the Ozone story to link to the original article in the <span style="font-style: italic;">Traveler-Watchman</span>) then come back here and leave a comment to let me know what you think.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />Currently Listening to: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F7MG4G?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=sagham-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000F7MG4G">Taking The Long Way</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=sagham-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000F7MG4G" alt="" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" border="0" height="1" width="1"> by the Dixie Chicks.</p>
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